man i hate those cats,1 last year started screaman at my niece she is 16 had her rifle but still spooked her on 1st hunt.yea i have a couple spots picked out the owner of the property has been seeing a nice 4x4 in the evening so i might chek out the old apple orcherd in the morning then see what pans out next you have a great 4th were headen up to are caben tomarow to enjoy it