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America's Frugal Sportsman
Posted On 06/21/2008 15:43:41 by nmcowboy

 

Hey y’all. Sorry about no new blog last week. Unfortunately I was reacting adversely to the up and down weather. However, I am back up to speed and raring to go. Today’s blog is designed to give you some good ideas and, hopefully start a few arguments.

 

In my regular America’s Frugal Sportsman monthly column I mentioned about finding deals on firearms. A number of folks posed the same question to me: What is the best cheap gun? I have been around long enough not to step into that one. Once a writer invokes the word “best” he is proclaiming superior knowledge on that subject. The readers, many times, will disagree with the expert in whole or in part. I proclaim no superior knowledge on any matter except, possibly, collecting ex-wives.

 

Instead, I am going to talk about a different method of examining the same question. I will address what are some “good” cheap weapons. That way, you get my opinion without being insulted. A number of TV hosts should adopt the same principle. What folks are interested in is what weapons they can obtain at a reasonable price that would serve their purpose. Now this is a category I am eager to address.

 

The first thing the prospective buyer should do is answer some basic questions: What is your budget?  Who is the gun for? Are they experienced in the handling of firearms? What amount of felt recoil will they be able to tolerate? What type of game will be hunted with it? What type of sights will be necessary? There are other questions, but these are the main ones that need to be addressed. If you find a great deal on a 338 Winchester Magnum and your 14 year-old needs a deer rifle, the deal is not necessarily good because the caliber is over kill and most 14 year-olds cannot  withstand the recoil of this round.  A deal is not always purely about money. Many hunters get caught by this, which explains why a lot of firearms are for sale in the classifieds. There is any number of mismatch pieces available. Those are guns with too much scope or insufficient scope mounted on them, rifles with magazines missing (a magazine can run over $50 real quickly), a weapon with a “slight’ crack in the stock (unless you are competent to properly repair the crack avoid this weapon unless the price is incredibly low), the bore is dark but just needs cleaning (I would only buy it after I saw it clean) or other qualifying statements you see in an add. Again, everything is relative. If an ad offers a $500 gun for $150, even if unfixable, the weapon should be able to sell for more than that just for the useable parts. But those do not come along that often.

 

So what do I feel are some “good” cheap rifles? Well, now we need to know a budget. In the $200 to $450 range, you will find many acceptable pieces. In that range I would look for a Savage or a Ruger first. The Savage has an undeniable reputation of being ugly but shooting exceptionally well. It’s sort of like finding an unattractive person to date, but they cook, clean wild game and own a 4X4. Rugers are better looking but do not command the price of a used Winchester or Remington. Is that deserved? Not to me, personally, but to many it is. Next would be a top brand weapon that was mistreated, i.e., scratches, exterior rust, adjustment caps missing off the scope. These obvious indicators drive down perceived value. On the other hand, if you are handy and can clean the weapon up or resurface the stock, then you can get a real deal. If you have to pay someone to do repairs on the for sale firearm, be extremely cautious and by low, very low.

 

It comes with a scope…man, what a piece of bait that statement is. There are a lot of very poor quality scopes on the market that do not add any value to the weapon. Dealers call them throw-aways. Their best purpose is to hold a window up. If the gun has a low end scope (if you are unsure…ask someone), bargain as if there were no scope on the gun. If it is a decent scope, ask the seller if they will warranty the scope. I always do that. If they are unwilling to warranty the scope then it is not worth what they thought it was. I hear someone saying “I’m not going to ask anyone that. They’ll think I am an idiot.”  Guess what, you walk away with a gun you paid too much for and you know what the seller thinks? “Idiot”  So as long as I am going to be an idiot, I might as well be an idiot with extra money in my pocket.

 

Buying in person is always best. That way you can check the mechanical workings of the weapon making sure that the bolt functions properly, the safety engages, the clip is there and functions properly and the scope is clear and undamaged. If you purchase online, as I often do, or are purchasing through an out-of-state ad, you must have window of opportunity to examine the gun, usually three days. If the seller is unwilling to extend the privilege of inspecting the weapon subject to returning it, stay away from that purchase. Without a written examination clause in the purchase, you would have no legal grounds to recoup your money, should the weapon, indeed, be faulty beyond reasonable repair.

 

Those are just some brief ideas. Next time I will be talking about some “good” weapons that can be purchased in the $150 or less range. I love being cheap…I mean frugal.

 

Remember, when you go outdoors this summer, take a youngster with you.  God Bless

 

Hollister

 

 

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08/21/2008 22:42:14
Outstanding.  I know a lot of people that are always trying to get that cheap gun and more times than not; it's not what they were looking for.  Thanks for a great blog and most important take a youngster to the outdoors. 


06/24/2008 23:10:40
excelent blog i agree 100% i own a 16 n a 20 gauge my dad has double barel n just bought a 300 caliber riffle laminated stock. but yeah mst ppl my age shouldn't get high reciol guns I started with a 20 when i was 8 n tht was way 2 much


06/22/2008 17:14:17


stevebeilgard wrote:
one of the best posts i've seen here....

 

Thanks for the input



06/22/2008 15:45:18
one of the best posts i've seen here....


06/22/2008 12:06:23


FEARNODEER wrote:
VERY WELL PUT. ALOT INFO TO THINK ABOUT. THANKS.!!!!

As always, I really appreciate your input.

 



06/22/2008 12:02:58
VERY WELL PUT. ALOT INFO TO THINK ABOUT. THANKS.!!!!


06/22/2008 11:44:14


tguyett wrote:
It was good, but you left out the $150muzzleloaders that UPS airdrops into major cities, and leaves them siting outside an appartment, that had the sights broken off, and a chip in the synthetic stock, that with a call to the dealer and UPS, ends up costing only $35 for some tru glo sights

Yep!



06/22/2008 11:42:28
It was good, but you left out the $150muzzleloaders that UPS airdrops into major cities, and leaves them siting outside an appartment, that had the sights broken off, and a chip in the synthetic stock, that with a call to the dealer and UPS, ends up costing only $35 for some tru glo sights


06/21/2008 19:19:41


TuckerTime wrote:
Good blog.

Thanks!



06/21/2008 19:17:39
Good blog.


06/21/2008 18:27:03
Well said Holister
I wouldn't buy a Gun just because of the scope  it should all be based on the Gun's operation  & looks . Don't try to buy a Big Caliber gun that won't fit you in the above words that Hollister spoke about  and that's over powering you can't handel . I have seen many people buy to try to out do ther Buddy and found out they couldn't handel the caliber so money needlesy spent . I always say start out small and build from what you learn from the purchase's before  or try someones gun you might like then go out and buy . Just my thought's   Great peice  of advice from Hollister


06/21/2008 18:19:19
Good sound advice bro!



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